Rev licensing - post factum rulings ???

[Thomas McGrath III]

Chipp, Jacque,

	"Additionally, with all editions the end user of the Created  
Software cannot edit scripts without purchasing or owning a Licensed  
Edition. You may not 	attempt to get round any of these limitations  
or encourage users of your Created Software to attempt to do so."

This seems to say your users "cannot edit scripts"....

	"You are prohibited to create or distribute Created Software to be  
used as a generic rapid application development tool. "

This however seems to say that any "generic rapid application  
development tool" is prohibited. To me that would mean any tool that  
allows the rapid development of an application.

I am curious as well as to what this means? If a standalone created  
copies of it self as in a presentation producing software then would  
the finished app not be an application and the standalone that  
created it be a generic rapid application development tool.


Also, it seems the copyright notice is now required:

	"You must include the following copyright notice where other such  
notices appear. In the event that such other notices do not appear in  
the Created 	Software, this notice must be placed in a reasonable  
location."


This will severely affect my software and what I plan on doing.

Thanks,

Tom

On Feb 27, 2006, at 12:20 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:

> Jacque,
>
> You seem to be the person who best understands this. Can you answer  
> me the questions below (as two emails to Kevin at RunRev are still  
> awaiting an answer)?
>
> We all know that the new Rev Media app is supposed to work with  
> templated solutions. I believe one of them is a slideshow  
> presentation. From the front page of RR's website:
>
> "Right out of the box it includes templates for creating kiosks,  
> presentations, adventure games, portfolios and more."
>
> So, can I legally create an application, say a presentation  
> application, which generates my own slideshow stacks, and I bundle  
> it with a very simple player so my users can run their saved  
> slideshow stacks and the whole thing is built so the user never  
> directly enters any Transcript? It would seem to me, this app I  
> described above is in direct competiton with Rev Media.
>
> Furthermore, can I legally create a Home stack application, kinda  
> like HyperCard, where users can build very simple apps like an  
> address book or recipe database, all w/out scripting (like HC)?  
> Each stack they save can be opened and edited in my original HClike  
> application. This is the HyperStudio scenario of which I imagine  
> Marielle may have been planning on building.
>
> Now with DreamCard becoming discontinued, it appears that my 'Home  
> stack app' described above, no longer represents competition for  
> RunRev, as it's specifically targeted at those who are NOT scriptors.
>
> So, what is RR's license policy on both of these? This whole  
> licensing issue is of great interest to me and I'm hoping to better  
> understand the boundries. I'm sorry you feel much of this is  
> 'misconstrued', but I think it's a very important subject for now  
> and future RR developers.
>
> best,
>
> Chipp
>
> J. Landman Gay wrote:
>
>> It is hard for me to believe how misconstrued this licensing  
>> discussion has become. It seems so very simple to me. The rules  
>> are straightforward:
>> 1. You can't create a competing IDE. This has always been the case.
>> 2. You can't create a generic, public "player" application.
>> Everything you describe in your situation is perfectly fine. RR  
>> does not require a customized splash screen on any app you create.  
>> RR does not require anything at all different than what you have  
>> been doing all along.
>> The only change -- which isn't really a change, but is now being  
>> enforced -- is that you cannot create a generic player app that is  
>> distributed for the sole purpose of providing "player"  
>> capabilities for stacks unrelated to your own software.
>> Aside from StackRunner (which is Ken Ray's product, not Richard's)  
>> no one else in the history of Revolution has ever created such an  
>> animal and no one else is affected.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> metacard mailing list
> metacard at lists.runrev.com
> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard

Thomas J McGrath III
3mcgrath at adelphia.net

Lazy River Software™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com

Lazy River Metal Art™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html

Meeting Wear™ - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear

Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com

SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html