METACARD ACQUIRED BY RUN REV!!!

Thu Jul 10 03:18:20 EDT 2003

Shari,

You should have more faith and trust in OpenSource. 

To begin with, many many dozens of old HyperCard stacks still run on MC... 

Then you have the great many javascript, java, PHP or C source codes on 
the net - many more than any commercial company can output in 20 years...
I haven't found many that didn't work! Compare that to the many 
"professionaly built programs" that dont!

If you dont believe or contribute to opensource, it it not going to get 
better. But it will and without you!
MC is gone that way IMOHO... The engine is awesome, the GUI, well, 
I dont have much positive to say about it... But it's far more inviting 
than RR. 
RR on the other hand is much more complete, and professional looking - 
it's just a bit overloaded IMOHO.

The problem is that nothing is perfect! I always thought Lotus Notes would 
be great to use since it's quite 
close to XOS or even metacard (in phylosophy) but now I've tried it, Im 
puking all over every feature it has
that doesn't work correctly or does incorrectly... 

But in this perfect world, we like you rumbling Shari!

BTW my Control Browser (and there are others!) is far beyond any you have 
seen in RunRev or MetaCard... 
Simpler, faster, more power and definitely no bloat!

If one or 2 persons would have helped, it would be beyond your wildest 
dreams with more features and less bugs than any other 
product. You can get an "outdated" preview at 
[http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=100]

Yesterday, I did something amazing: I just copied/pasted a "script editor" 
grouped-object from XOS into the script editor of the control browser, 
and other than the save script script, it worked right off. Less bugs, 
more standards, more features... 

You choose... You can sort the columns, collapse the window with a double 
click or even search all the stack items and their controls! 
Im also working on making changes to more than one item, and versioning, 
custom props, themes, styles, etc... and OpenSource!!!

Soon and thanks to ClipperX text-editor grouped-object you will even have 
html text editing and the rest... 
Additive is a quality for XOS and most of my software - I keep hearing 
GREAT, woah!, etc... You be the judge.

I just never get many comments, help or bug reports... Let alone 
investment requests or incentiveware fees! Not even a beer!
So Im not motivated to help anymore more... Too much leeching. But I do it 
for my own development and couldn't live without it!

As far as marketing, I can tell you that a running product will sell. A 
nicely designed program will sell better but not longuer.
New features and GUI design is what sells upgrades... So I hope this works 
for RR and it's new users...

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Shari <gypsyware at earthlink.net>
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>If this is all you worry about, you can rest easy.  I'll continue to
>be a part of the engine development team for the foreseeable future,
>and though my control over the direction of the technology and
>management will be greatly diminished, I have complete confidence in
>the team at Runtime Revolution.  They're just better managers and
>marketers than I ever was ;-)

Scott,

If you learn any new marketing tricks, let us know!  They say that 
developers often make the worst marketers, which is why it is so 
difficult to succeed in this business.  We'd rather stay glued to the 
keyboard and code, than pound the pavements strutting our stuff.

Kinda reminds me of Apple/Windows.  Apple had the better product, but 
Billy was the marketing genius, and so snatched up the majority of 
marketshare.

If I am understanding this, in the future, if you took the Rev 
engine, but replaced the stacks (Home, Help, Metacard Menubar, etc.) 
with the current MC stacks, it would run?

There were features I liked about Rev when I tried it, like sorting 
the contents of the Control Browser.  There were other features that 
got in the way, though I truthfully don't recall what they were.

I don't have a lot of faith in Open Source carrying a product into 
the future as something you can rely on for years to come.  I'm not 
aware of an open source program that has been around for at least 10 
years, is stable, and of this magnitude.  Since nobody makes money 
from open source, there is nothing to keep it alive but heart, and 
that usually fades with time.

Sometimes new blood in a company is a positive thing.  Sometimes not. 
I still bitch every time I use OSX, as it is so Windows-like.   I 
miss being able to double click the title bar to collapse a window 
(yes I know you can get programs to do this, but before, we didn't 
have to).  I despise having to go thru "Are you sure you want to..." 
dialogs every time I click a button.  I miss being able to color 
folders, so that certain ones stand out and remind me of something.

I can only hope this change will be a GOOD thing.  It wouldn't have 
mattered to me if Scott added a lot of features, as long as the 
engine was kept up to date with the computer platforms, and of course 
if a major change occurred in the computer world, that it would be 
integrated.  (Such as when computers added color, and Hypercard 
tacked it on but never truly integrated it as they should have.)

Yes I am rambling.  Where I should be off doing things that need to 
be done by Friday to get ready for the Shareware Industry 
Conference.....

Shari C
-- 
--Shareware Games for the Mac--
http://www.gypsyware.com
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